Let’s talk about going UA

I think something that should be discussed is the lack of awareness of the high rate of UA’s in both the active and reserve component of the marine corps. And I mean A LOT. In my platoon alone at least 10 have gone UA and that is not accounting for those in the rest of the company.

One thing is for certain, when a person hates a place, you can not bind them to it regardless of the repercussions. I have witnessed friends use any means to get out, I have seen friends get hurt and be tossed under the rug and ridiculed and belittled as if they were the enemy. It’s sad the culture that has become the marine corps.

We’re told that it’s great from the beginning with it’s promises of camaraderie, leadership, integrity, all flew out the window the second one hits the fleet, active or reserves. The lack of informing applicants of their options because of recruiters wanting to meet their quotas, or fear being the recipient of the boot. Applicants days away from boot camp being dumped by their wives for another, recruits attempting suicide to get out, marines going UA, doing drugs, being injured, etc.

Whether it’d be intentional or not, it has always bothered me. But what has bothered me the most was the lack of care. The lack of care from the “leaders”, “fellows”, and attachments. I have had good friends do all of the above, and I won’t lie I have thought about it in the past as well.

I and the rest of the marines whom have had the bitter taste of reality come to the front so much that they have come to the point of wondering whether what we are doing is worth it or not.

The same leader one day who is “motivated” in the presence of leadership is the same person the next day laughing off people who are gone. I’m tired of the lack of professionalism, the lack of care, the deception, the THIEVERY, the back stabbing. If recruiting posters really showed the reality of the situation, every poster would have an asterisk attached and a brief description of what someone is to expect.

Now, as I get my rant out of the way, and as I reflect on the years that have passed and the people who have done the things they did to get out of the corpse, I don’t blame them. I truly do not blame them one bit. The marine corps sucks, and those who say otherwise are lying.

This branch has built up too much momentum in the direction it’s headed, and the generals and politicians have thrown money and powerpoints at this organization thinking it’ll be for the better but what they fail to see is that it hasn’t gotten any better for decades.

The best image that comes to my mind is that of a coin that is minted perfectly and once it’s damaged, rusted, and worn, can not be utilized anymore and is tossed out and condemned. God forbid you become injured or ill, because there will be no use for you.

I know I’m beating a dead horse but this is a great site that has been made to make the general public aware of the situation the marines find itself in, truly.

Submitted by: broman

  • FIRST SERGEANT DEATHEATER

    HEY THERE DEVIL!!! WHATCHA DOING CALLING MY BELOVED MARINE CORPS A “BRANCH”?!!??!!? DONTCHA KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ANYTHING YOU HEINOUS PUKE??!!?!?!? HOW DO YOU EXPECT PEOPLE TO TAKE A TURD NON-RATER LIKE YOU SERIOUSLY IF YOU CAN’T EVEN GET SOMETHING LIKE THE MARINE CORPSE BEING PART OF THE NAVY RIGHT??? YOU IMMATURE FREAKING KIDS THINK THE CIVILIAN SIDE IS ALL GREENER AND WHAT NOT, BUT AS SOMEONE WHO HAS A BACHELORS DEGREE LET ME TELL YOU THAT ITS NOT ALL THE MAGIC AND RAINBOWS SOME SUPER “WHINERS” CHALK IT UP TO BE. YOU WILL ALWAYS HAVE A BOSS MARINE CORPS OR NOT, AND GOING UA JUST SHOWS HOW MUCH OF A QUITTER YOU ARE AND ALWAYS WILL BE, GOOD TO GO? SO SUCK IT UP, READ YOUR MESSAGE TO GARCIA, DO YOUR FIELD DAY, AND STAY MOTIVATED, TRACKING???

    • S.
      • StillintheFight

        (S)he also inadvertantly spelled Corps as “Corpse,” a dead giveaway that it’s probably a normal poster trolling for fun…

    • Texas01

      Alright buttercup, simmer down now… get yourself together and get those bunched up, soiled panties out of a wad. I’ve no doubt that you don’t realize this, but your reply epitomizes many of the points Broman and many others have spoken to.. From a civilian’s perspective, you come across as a cartoonish, maladjusted socially inept minion who quite frankly, would be very difficult to employ outside the realm of Burger King, Wal-Mart, etc. It’s ironic that the Marines pride themselves in being “The few, the proud, etc” given that the attrition rate is so ridiculously low. Have you seen the attrition rates in medical school? I can’t imagine what the field of medicine would be if the average attrition rate was 10 percent. Yet, the Corps not only enlisted, but pushed an autistic kid through boot camp?? http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=8080064 You call those standards? An autistic Marine? Idiots such as you simply don’t get it… It has nothing to do with the yelling, the physical demands, etc…please son…your beloved Corps graduated an autistic kid (and no, I’m certain he wasn’t an exception). There have undoubtedly been MANY mentally unfit kids get pushed through).so….get over yourself. The mental anguish is derived from the realization that they’ve put their lives on hold for four years while having to answer to mental midgets whose higher ranking has NOTHING to do with their ability (or lack thereof) to lead. Lastly, as a civilian with three advanced degrees and a long standing career in medicine, I can attest that there is plenty of magic, rainbows and even a few unicorns roaming green pastures in our world.

      • StillintheFight

        One part of this that you nailed for sure – there is a common misconception that “senior ranking” is the same thing as “leader.” Hell, “boss” doesn’t even equal “leader.” I think it’s perfectly acceptable to think that though someone is “in charge,” they aren’t always a leader.
        I know, that’s a lot of quotation marks.
        I wish Broman and BrassNecked could come spend some time in my unit and see that some people actually can care about each other in this organization.

  • BrassNecked14

    My unit of all Airwing units, was considered perfect, at least in my booty boot opinion when I arrived in the Fleet not too long ago. Almost 400 days without a DUI, relatively reasonable work hours, and being 20 minutes away from just about every good place in San Diego when on leave or libo. But the problem was that even in a chill environment, the corpse has a way of sneaking in, destroying the living shit of a motivation out of a LOT of enlisted personnel including a number of NCO’s/SNCO’s who realize the ridiculousness of BS that’s thrown upon us.

    Heck, anyone can tell that this generation of Marines is the Terminal Lance generation: when a Marine suddenly wakes up to the fact that the Marine Corps doesn’t make a girls underwear drop, that this isn’t “The Few and The Proud”, and that you’re going to be playing a lot of stupid games that revolve around being partially full time janitors, they can’t wait to get the hell out regardless of their Time in Service.

    Here’s how bad my demotivation is: I have only been in a year and can already see the day that I go on Terminal or even EASing and I know in the very core of my heart, that I will not look back or regret that I decided to not stay in. From boot camp to hitting the Fleet, I’ve waited for the day I was going to be treated better/like a real adult, until someone decided to trash my room, tell me how to cut my hair, how to dress when not working, and getting my car inspected for a holiday period, what I had initially perceived of the Marine Corps, is all gone.

    • Cabub

      Same here brother. I’ve only been in about 2 years and ever since the fleet have been waiting the moment I walk to the IPAC in a kilt and blue-painted face and screaming freedom as I hold up my DD214.

  • Hai Huynh

    Only if I knew this website existed before I enlist in the Marine Corps. Right now I hate my life as an 0311, yeah I passed bootcamp and ITB but coming to the fleet was a world different world, As right now, I’m in the process of being separated from the corps, at the end I’m just glad I’m getting out of here, away from the bullshits, away from the people here, away from this shit hole (29 palms).

    • Good luck. Hopefully you are able to accomplish something worthwhile. If you have any good stories, please send them our way. We’d love to hear them.

    • Billiam201

      29 Palms.

      That place is the Frank Lloyd Wright of architectural douche-baggery. Who puts the sewage treatment across from the barracks?

      And then, what asshole has the temerity to call it a “lake”?

      An entire base in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by featureless sand, infested with dependapotami and endangered pee-turtles, and a couple of hours drive from anything even resembling interesting is bad enough.

      Now we have to make the entire base smell like a rancid bucket of garlic-sauteed yak vagina and anchovies?

    • Jarod Valenti

      How has everything gone so far? I’m in the reserves as well and would like to know how the UA process is going. Can’t stand this shit.

      • The Equalizer

        The UA is different in the reserves than active duty. If you UA in the reserves, no MP will come after you and no warrant will be out for your arrest. You’ll be cut down to E1 and eventually discharged under OTH. Can’t say for NG because they’re under their own state ordained laws.

        Active is whole different and CO would have the right to issue a warrant for arrest for desertion.

      • The Equalizer

        And if you’re about to do something what I’m thinking you’re gonna do. You better make sure you turn in all of your CIF gear and have a copy of that gear checklist sheet. And make sure your unit is activated, because if it does get activated they would fall under Active Duty rules.

        Semper Fubar