Rants of a Boot Marine Part IV: Dying Slowly Inside

I get it, the POG life is supposed to be easy and the Grunt Life sucks. You know what, both equally suck. I don’t care what you say it is, both just suck. Let’s leave it at that.

I don’t know who else feels this way, but the Marine Corps sure as hell doesn’t build you into “a man”, a “gentleman”, or “ladylike” or whatever it is.

Okay, I take that back, maybe it can teach you how to dress well, but that’s completely on you to have a good appearance or not. THAT right there, is an adult decision, something that sure can make you a man/adult, or continue looking like whatever you were previously.

Like other Marines who are venting their anger out on here, I see it all: So called professional Marines who party it up like college students, treating their barracks like a dorm, “lady-like” Marines who soon become infamous barracks bunnies, and being treated like a child/messed around by NCO’s who claim they get you because they once were in your shoes. Okay, then why mistreat the Marines under you? Because you’re trying to one up somebody from your past?

I have only been in for a year and I feel burnt out. I just feel physically, mentally, spiritually, and emotionally taxed, wanting it all to go away whether it’d be drinking or going to a massage parlor for “discreet” massages. That sure as hell doesn’t work, it made me feel emptier.

The Marines Corps, being known for making simple things hard, has made Admin into some monster of itself. My shop is now working almost the same time as a SDA, which will make some of you laugh, but if we’re all missing out on chow hall hours, not coming back to the barracks until 2100, and having to show up around 0530-600, might as well get Commuted Rations or even a bit of an incentive pay?

Being in the shop and watching all these Marine VEERPing out, or soon retiring, I wish I was in their shoes badly. I wish I was that Marine, walking into the S-1 with the last space to fill in, getting that DD-214, and driving out without looking back.

Some people say, “Hey look, maybe if you took some leave just to decompress, maybe that’ll work!”

Sure, but if only I had enough leave days, 18 total isn’t enough.

I want to save up all those days for a trip to Europe next year, provide that I could get through the bureaucratic process to get Foreign Leave approved. I tried saving by being willing to take Special Liberty instead of Leave for Christmas, but was forced to take it when they found out I was flying back later than the time Liberty was secured (0730 on the West Coast, I wanted to fly back at 1630). There goes 6 days!!!

But really, you can’t imagine even if I had those 6 days, I literally hoped out of where I worked. I didn’t care what Marines were thinking, I was just that damn happy! It sucked coming back though, feeling like 6 days went by way too fast.

Hence why if I wanted to take leave, I’d want to take an entire month. Hell, I’ll even beg for PTAD before Christmas if I have to, but I just want time off. That’s how bad it is.

Sorry if it sounds super random or doesn’t make sense guys, I just know if I write something, I feel somewhat better than resorting to wasting money on “happy” massages. But that’s a completely different story for a different website.

Submitted by: BrassNecked14

  • Guest

    The Marine Corps might teach you to “dress well”, but then again my mom tried to make me dress well in elementary school, and I still looked like a dork. If I wanna have stubble, that’s my choice. If I want to wear my blue jeans with holes in the knees, that’s my choice. If I want to have three inch long hair, that’s my choice. If I wanna wear my flannel shirts unbuttoned, that’s my choice. Just remember children, I have never gotten laid by adhering to Marine Corps dress standards.


    • BrassNecked14

      What you said is are adult choices, nothing wrong with unbuttoned flannel shirts, a 5 o’clock shadow, being on your own freakin program, those are true big boy rules. When you make a decision to do something and stand by it as an individual, you’re thinking as an adult, not having some crazy freak dictate how you should look. Believe me, I hate it when NCO’s or whoever say I need a haircut. WHEN I HAVE A FREAKING MEDIUM REG!!!!!

      I’m not saying that I follow Marine Corps attire in verbatim, I sure as hell am not going to walk around looking like the stereotypical boot at Oceanside or Jacksonville, but if I was wearing a regular tailored suit then maaaaaybe. Again, I’m not saying that the Marine Corps can teach you stuff, it can, but don’t expect it to turn you into a man or instant panty dropper

      • Guest

        Yeah, I learned that the hard way. Frankly, living on my own, going to college, paying my own bills, and pursuing my own interests and career made me more of a man than the Corps could’ve ever dreamed of. I can stand up for myself, make my own decisions, and I don’t have any nanny telling me what to do; and I enjoy it. I might not always enjoy paying my bills, but I enjoy the fact that I run my own god damn life and nobody’s gonna change that.

        “I will choose a path that’s clear, I will choose freewill” – Rush

  • Don

    I dislike the very idea of my daughter joining the Marines because there is a tendency for the DI’s to humiliate weaker kids. Why? Because the kid can’t run fast enough or learn quickly enough. DI’s seem to enjoy cursing at recruits from what I have been told. I have personally heard stories of one young man who was kicked in the groin with such force that he can’t have children. The list seems endless. Quasi- Neanderthals in charge of good kids who only wanted to serve their country. Further, it appears that some kids are told about “nasty civilians” who ultimately are paying for the entire dawned Corps!

    • freeatlastfreeatlast

      I’m glad your daughter is seeking to serve her country, and wishes to join the Marine Corps out of a sense of proving herself through the hard choice. Despite her best intentions of national service and self-verifications however, I have to stress that the yelling DIs she’ll see for the first few months of her enlistment should be the least of your concerns.

      Females are widely stigmatized in the Marine Corps because they are largely viewed by their male peers as having an easier time of it than them. There are many reasons for this viewpoint, the first of which is because the physical fitness standards, which come into account for promotion, are lowered for females. It’s a pitifully common occurrence to see females falling out of humps (hikes), because the weight they have to carry is the same as their male peers. The gear in their packs often then has to be divvied out amongst the other Marines, increasing their already heavy burden. Females are notorious for falling out of runs as well, which lengthens the run for everyone else. Also, females regardless of rank often live together in the field by necessity, and so informal “good-ol’-girl” relationships between their superiors and them form and often lead to preferential treatment that’s readily noticed by everyone else. These relationships frequently build up between females and their male superiors as well.


      The Marine Corps basically bribes first time enlistees to get married, and so many service marriages, which are already comparatively weak, are subjected to frequent and sudden separations and long absences that are an inherent part of Military life. These marriages then often end badly, and I don’t think I was ever in a unit where at least one guy hadn’t lost everything, including his kids, to his now ex-wife in a messy divorce. Sexual assault in the military has been the latest keynote issue for commanders to address to advance their careers, and the way it’s usually viewed in the Marines is the females changing their mind after the fact until proven otherwise. This obviously isn’t always the case, and I tread lightly on this subject as I can only relate to my personal experiences with females in the Marines, none of which involved sexual assault accusations. I can only say that this is the way it is usually perceived.

      With all that said, your daughter isn’t doing anyone any favors by enlisting if she’s not physically or mentally up to it. Regardless of her perceived altruistic patriotism, she will do nothing but further the stigma against female Marines. The Marine Corps has many problems, and many of them stem from their lowering of standards to meet enlistment quotas; this does nothing but hurt mission effectiveness in the long run.

      If your daughter wants to enlist in the Marines, which I would advise against for pretty much anybody at this point, she should do so with the mindset of breaking these stereotypes. Long before she ships out, she should physically train with the goal of outperforming her male peers. She should also determine which MOS she’s going to have, and study it to have a running start out of the gate. She should also study the boot camp handbag of bullshit that comes up every now and again afterwards (general orders, leadership principles and traits). If it takes her longer to learn these things, the sooner she starts the better.