The Life of a Marine Corps Recruiter Part 6

“What’s up warriors you can lead a horse to water and you can make it drink. If you work it hard enough.” Great speech SgtMaj did you think of that all by yourself or after you got done pressing your track suit out and wonder why it melts. I think to myself hearing that please god don’t let me say stuff that stupid ever. How is that suppose to motivate me or make me understand training any better? It just makes me wonder how stupid you really might be and what you think about with no Marines around you. Then your closing comments you give at the end of training holy shit. Because of days like today I want to stick my face in a deep fryer. Wait I can’t because then I wouldn’t be able to write my contract and would have to go to zero training to be told I suck at life. Oh wait again I was already told that this month. Screw it I’ll just be defiant and sarcastic maybe I’ll work on my NASA resume or Political campaign.

Submitted by:  2807aListofLies

  • LCPLFORLIFE

    Hey brother I have been following your posts mainly because i was a recruiters aid for a while do you care if I talk to you over phone or skype I have an issue which you may be able to help me with.

  • LCPLFORLIFE

    like your posts btw

  • lysergicacid4

    Hey 2807aListofLies. I’ve been reading your posts on here as well. I would like to ask you a couple of questions (via email or what not) that my recruiter won’t talk to me about. I just want somebody else’s opinion on this situation. So if you would, please message me or contact me via email. Much obliged.

    • S.

      He doesn’t have access to your email. Feel free to drop any questions you have on the site.

  • LCPLFORLIFE

    My question why is it that recruiting duty turns good Marines and good people so bad? I worked rec aid in the reserves and for some reason the recruiters i worked in were some of the worst people in the world. These guys told me they were not like this in the fleet. Do you believe it is the lack of officer supervision?

    • AAVPOG

      I’m glad you brought that up! I was on RA for a month right after boot camp and was able to observe recruiters in their natural habitat. Officers should definitely be at more recruiting stations instead of only locating near college campuses in order to expose more civilians/poolees/boots to the commissioned side and keep negative behaviors in check. Some, like myself, never even met an officer until they failed a MEPS piss test or got to boot camp. Every Marine has either met or heard of at least one recruiter that bangs high school girls/poolees and parties with underage kids, or partakes in other decidedly unwholesome activities, and the presence of an authority figure -especially O3 and above- would almost certainly decrease the amount of underhanded bullshit that goes on. Captains and above should to be required to randomly check in on their Marines throughout their command at the very least. One could go so far as to say commanders need to monitor the social media output of their subordinates for signs of scumfuckery, but that might be overstepping a First Amendment boundary in some situations. The world is much more strict in the fleet, especially the discipline, but awful people always find ways to do awful things. There are plenty of horrible individuals, and giving them the freedom to be a complete scumbag in uniform will undoubtedly allow them to show their true colors (usually blue and falcon-ish).

    • NINJA_PUNCH

      I think that the biggest part is that recruiters have a strict quota to meet but they’re left with virtually no supervision in carrying out this task (My recruiter once got a phone call from a Sgt Maj so he could chew him out for not meeting his quota last month, while I was in the car… looking back that should’ve been a huge red flag).

      This opens recruiters up to the possibility of “cutting corners”/going totally rogue, because they’ll be sternly reprimanded if they don’t meet quota, and they know they can get away with breaking the rules to meet that quota.

      I once read the book “The Lucifer Effect” by Dr. Phil Zimbardo ( http://www.lucifereffect.comhttp://www.lucifereffect.com ). In that book he explained – in detail – how his “Stanford Prison Experiment” worked, and then compared it to the prisoner abuse in Abu Ghraib. In both cases he noticed that the guards had a mission to accomplish (in Abu Ghraib, the prison was hugely overcrowded, compounding the issue of “keeping order”). Meanwhile they’re actual chain of command (above their SSgt) never put in so much as a cursory appearance to see how things were going.

      I think it’s a similar situation here. There’s a job to do, no oversight, virtually no accountability for misbehavior, and lo and behold, a lot of recruiters do pretty much whatever they please.

  • S.

    I just want to publicly thank NINJA_PUNCH for discovering this site back in 2011 and accepting my offer to become the co-owner. Without NINJA_PUNCH, this site would not be anywhere close to where it is today in popularity and reputation.

    Back in the day, I had this site up, and people visited and commented, but it was NP who was able to articulate the most amazing responses and answers to questions left on the site, and destroy trolls in the most hilarious manner.

    Sure, I built and founded this site, but it was NP who stepped up and took the reins in forming this community and helping people.

    Also, NP, you should check out this amazing website. It’s called reddit. It can be found at http://www.reddit.com. You should check it out.

    NP wrote the majority of this sites most popular and influential articles and has helped more people than everyone else here combined. Did I mention you should check out reddit?

    • NINJA_PUNCH

      1) Thank you, you’re too kind.

      2) You and your freaking Reddit! As you well know, I have an account on Reddit. Do you feel better now? Lol…
      http://www.reddit.com/user/NINJA_PUNCH/

      • S.

        1. I am not too kind. I need to be nicer, actually. I am just extra nice to you so you keep following me into battle (we are going to Ukraine next).

        2. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit.Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit.

        • FailedToAdapt

          Reddit is the shiz.

  • lysergicacid4

    Here it is..
    When joining and signing up for the process and all, is there any way one could not mention their prior service record in another branch and their character of discharge? I think I’ve hit a point in my life where joining the Marine Corps, as bad as it is described here, is pretty much the only meaningful thing I could do with my life right now.
    Any advice would help..

    • hooyut

      There is no way you could hide service in one of the branches when enlisting in the Navy’s Marine corps. Big brother knows every number and name ever in it’s servitude.
      What is your story? What is going on with you?

      • lysergicacid4

        Well, it’s just that I miss the military. I did a 5 year stint in the Army (Armored Cav, 1st Cav). Several deployments and all, many awards. A month before the end of my contract I got a civilian ass DUI off post, which the command used against me and chaptered me, giving me a Gen Under Honorable RE code 3. All the Navy and Marine recruiters and all the other ones from the Army have told me that: “Yeah you can get a waiver, but not at this time.” But guess what? A civilian ass kid with no military background could get a waiver for a DUI or multiple misdemeanors no problem. How fucked up is that? After being in the civvy street for a couple of years, I don’t dig going to college or working these blue-collar gigs. My time in the Army was WAAY more interesting. You get to hang with some really cool dudes and do a lot of shooting and physical stuff. The whole cohesion and camaraderie thing.. Memories you can’t forget and all..

        • hooyut

          Well your experience in the army will be vastly different from an experience in the marine corps and most likely a far more negative experience. Topping that with the draw down and failed government budget your chances are slim, even for the marine corps.

          I’m not too familiar with your type of situation where you were in, got out and want back in, but I would highly recommend going with air force, army, or even navy and forget the marine corps. That is just based on standard of living and better work environments.