The “Title” “Marine” is Given, not Earned

As a teen in highschool, I didn’t know what I wanted to do when I graduated. So I decided joning the military would give me some time to decide and maybe even some money for school, or possibly even making it my career. I lived in a large military city of mostly Navy personnel so after seeing those cool marine commercials I decided to “challenge” myself and “try” to become one of the few & proud instead of just another sailor. I went to the recruiter and said I wanted to join when I graduated and the process began. I entered the dep program 5 months before my ship date. We didn’t have computers and internet at the time so it was done the old fashioned pen and paper way. I took the asvab. If I remember, I scored around 66 and the minimum is 35. I then went to the meps for the physical eval & such. It was determined that I was a good candidate since I was a normal healthy kid with just a few extra pounds. Finally after months of waiting, my ship date arrived. One last stop at the meps and it was off to basic training. When I first arrived, I fully expected the games and BS to happen. As I progressed through the different phases I came to realize that the “few” and the “proud” was just hype. I noticed many recruits who just couldn’t make the grade. Dropping out of runs, failing knowledge tests, unking on the range, etc but they were always given multiple chances to redo them. Several tried to quit but they were told they had to honor their contract & that was what really made me think. Anyone with half a brain, and a few minimum requirements could be given the title.
From the corpse FB page:
Anonymous asked, “How do you prepare for boot camp?”
To be a Marine is to become an elite and strategic warrior.
An “elite” and “strategic” warrior? Hmm. Let me see…..what does it take to “earn” the title and become one if the “elite.”
18 years of age
Legal US citizen
High school diploma
Minimum asvab score of 35
Reasonably good health
Sign the dotted line and swear an oath
3 pull ups
50 crunches in 2 minutes
Run 3 miles in 28:00 or less
Hit the target 75% of the time
Tolerate the bullshit for 90 short days and presto, The title of marine is given to you. (I kind of took Ninjas words where he said the title is really given & not earned)
If you fail any of these at boot camp you are given multiple chances to try again. Why would an “elite” force want that? Maybe its all just marketing BS to lure unsuspecting kids to something where they really just need warm bodies to perform grunt work. I fell for the hype. Recruiters don’t necessarily lie, but they’re not exactly Paul Harvey who will tell you “the REST of the story.” So there. The title is given. Its harder to quit than graduate. For those motards that call people pussies, non-hackers, wimps, quitters etc, maybe so but they quit and or got out because it was nothing like what they were told by their recruiters and other marines. I’ve also asked this question a few times. If the corpse is so great, then why do so few stay in and become lifers? My platoon graduated 63 and to my knowledge, only 3 served for 20. A few reenlisted once but the vast majority served their 4 and got out. Most of the ones I keep in contact with have very successful lives and families yet we were told we wouldn’t amount to anything by the corpse. I challenge anyone to prove me wrong that the title is given.
Submitted by: MasterLcpl
  • private_givenofucks

    Good shit, I thought the same thing when I was in boot I felt more like a prisoner than a warrior, during the lame hikes and on my walks to church every Sunday I fucking scouted and remembered every inch of MCRD so that if opportunity arose i could escape. When everyone in my platoon received their EGA’s and started crying I just stood their thinking” This is it? This is what I worked so hard for? This is bullshit.”

    • madmike1968

      I just bought a copy of that book “Pawns, the plight of the citizen soldier”. It is excellent though dated. I grew up during the 60’s and 70’s so the Vietnam thing was before my time but I remember it from television and such. When my generation of marines was being insulted by the “old corps” jarheads I kept laughing thinking about all the drugs and race riots that happened when they were my age. But yeah pretty much everything that guy said was true.

  • fukusmc

    “The title is only earned by those imbued by the Corps core values of honor courage and commitment”
    That written statement is a good example of forced political correctness, but is so opened and subjective that it ends up becoming meaningless. Is one worthy of being a Marine just because he is forced to carry some stupid values card with these three words on it? Or is he a Marine because he can yell these three words at the top of his lungs while standing in an unnecessarily long formation?
    That’s just trivial and meaningless superficiality over real substance- an individual can still pass boot camp no problem ( because the Corps has far more need of REPLACABLE LOW PAID WAGE SLAVES) without any type of measure of these values.
    The photograph above is more of an example of forced BLIND OBEDIENCE under the guise of physical training. It may improve physical fitness, but it just reinforces that you are OWNED by your USMC masters.
    I’m glad to be finished with the Marines because they just take everything to absurd, ridiculous extremes! I had no problem with basic rules, but not more rules on top of rules just made for the purposes of essentially ‘enslaving’ people, or making everything a criminal offence because the masters want more control!
    Petty, trivial, superficial shit like not shaving on the weekend, or getting a haircut every week, or a belt less than an inch past the belt loop is hardly a measure of a persons worth! “Attention to Detail!!” cry all the motards, but there’s a huge difference between having proper attention to detail on things that matter ( engine calibration) as opposed to things that are not so important ( weekend shave!) Stupid Marines just want to focus on everything as opposed to what is really important!
    The only “commitment” I see here is just people being conditioned to be slaves- with a few freedoms only given just like scraps to a dog when they perform the tricks his master wants to see!

  • NINJA_PUNCH

    The minimum Table 1 Rifle score is 190, in 50 shots. If you hit the 4 point ring 40 times, that 160 points. Then if you hit the 3 point ring 10 times, that’s another 30 points, bringing your total up to 190.
    You can qualify at the rifle range, and never actually hit what you were aiming at even a single time. On top of that, if you fail Table 2, it automatically drops your score to a 190 but you still qualify. You never actually have to hit the center of the target to qualify as a “marksman”. How sad is that?

  • Ron02

    Ha ha!! These boys are actually on the same level as autistic kids and felons. Don’t forget this:
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/07/30/759308/-Marine-Recruiter-Drove-Autistic-Man-from-Group-Home-to-Enlist
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/04/21/military.waivers/index.html?_s=PM:US

    Earn a title in the elite brotherhood consisting of residential burglars!!!

  • Ron02

    Military recruitment, especially Marine Corps was intentionally designed to specifically appeal to sociopaths. Designed by behavioral scientists employed by the government. So it was no mistake, nor something that can be changed.

  • Master LCpl

    No one has challenged me yet. Maybe because you can’t disprove a fact. Unlike what the gunny said on Full Metal Jacket, “My orders are to weed out all non hackers. …..” DI’s don’t have the authority (to my knowledge) to get rid of people who clearly aren’t fit for their beloved corpse. They need bodies. Someone has to clean the general’s office. Someone has to clean up after the officers. And, snco’s would probably go stir crazy if they didn’t have non-rates to yell at to make them feel important. Also, here is a link to the page that says to become a jarhead is to be an elite warrior. https://m.facebook.com/marinecorps/photos/a.418771841713.197563.21609611713/10152741281026714/

    • thankful guest

      We repeatedly had DIs get in the face of recruits and scream at them “YOU DON’T BELONG HERE! YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS BEING A MARINE!”. And still continue to train them. I remember thinking “why the fuck don’t you guys drop them? that way they can stop fucking up shit for the rest of us”. Needless to say they graduated and went on spread their festering infection to make the corpse more decrepit and unpleasant for those who truly have a desire to be there.

  • iSuck@Coloring

    When you see a very obese recruit getting thrown over a wall on the O Course by a DI, you know the title is given..