United States Marine Corps’ Recruit Separation Platoon

I walked into Recruit Separation Platoon on October 23rd 2009. As always I barely had any idea of what was going on while being at Parris Island. RSP consists of a Squad bay in the main receiving building on Parris Island. When you enter RSP you hand over most of your military equipment because you don’t need it anymore. I turned in all my digital camouflage. I was assigned to rack 89 which was right next to the drill instructor house. I was given a pair of dull green sweatpants and matching sweat shirt. I was also given a glow strap and war belt. (belt that holds two canteens). I then filled out paperwork at the tables next to the scribe desk. I filled out general information about myself and where the closest Greyhound bus station was to my house. Still being somewhat new to Parris Island I was shaky on all the rules and proper way to act. When you are in RSP you are still considered a recruit and you need to conduct yourself as such. Many new recruits who enter RSP don’t comprehend this very well.

The Standard day in RSP consists of waking up at 5:00 AM. We all then line up in front of our racks and count off. If we mess up we start over. We are then instructed to start “hygiene”. Morning hygiene is supposed to consist of brushing your teeth and shaving. However many recruits would skip the shave because while I was at RSP for my two and a half weeks we only had hygiene inspection twice. Racks are also supposed to be made “tight” in the morning. This means you need to make your bed in the marine fashion. 45 degree corners on the sheets at the head of the bed and 45 degree corners at the end of the rack on the green wool blanket. Lastly the sheet needs to be folded down from the head 18 inches. My rack looked like crap for the first few days and then I started to get the hang of it. After everyone finishes hygiene and making their racks we line up for chow. Everyone puts on their war belt and glow strap ( yellow reflective strap that goes from left shoulder to right hip.) Then we go next door to line up at the back hatch in the PEB (Physical Evaluation Board) squad bay. PEB recruits are recruits who become seriously injured and are also working on getting home except their paperwork goes to D.C. and takes them about 2-4 months (guess) to get home. We line up in columns of two in front of that hatch on average there was about 90 to 100 recruits at one time including PEB recruits. (80 RSP – 20 PEB) We would wait for a bus or two to come pick us up to bring us to chow hall. The Waiting factor in RSP is what makes you crazy and feel like you are there for an eternity. My guess is that we would be waiting in line for up 30 – 45 minutes. We all then would get on the Bus and “crush it”. crushing it consists of interlocking legs and pushing down towards the end of the bus in order to fit the most recruits possible. The busses had Plexiglas windows that were very scratched. They also had benches in the middle and edges that were parallel to the bus.

When we arrive at the chow hall we get off the bus and get into a formation of 4 columns with the 4 squad leaders at the front facing their line. We then will file ourselves off one column at a time into the chow hall. We then would usually wait in line at the chow hall for 15- 40 minutes for chow to be ready. The etiquette for getting chow is pretty simple. The guide will instruct the next 3 rows (6 recruits) to detach out ever 2 minutes or so. You will then get chow and place it at a table. Then you go up and get your drink. After chow we will head back to the squad bay and count off again. The drill instructor would then instruct us to “turn to cleanup” cleanup consists of all the RSP recruits getting cleaning equipment ( brooms, scuzz brushes, metal polish, cleaning spray, dust pans, and others.) The recruits then split up making sure they all have their war belt and glow strap on. Recruits can leave the squad bay and clean around the whole building. Cleaning will take anywhere from 15 minutes to and hour. After we finished cleaning we would head back to the RSP squad bay and sit on our foot lockers. If we have been following the rules then we will “turn to free time” If not we sit on the quarterdeck. During free time we were allowed to read, write letters, and talk quietly. During my first few days I would talk to recruits to figure out what was going on and what was going to happen. Here is what I learned

The recruit who enters RSP is only supposed to be in RSP for 7 to 10 business days once they have been cleared by medical.

A “sleep over” is a recruit in RSP who cannot go down to be cleared by medical because his medical records have not reached the medical building yet.

I was a sleep over for one week. I got cleared by medical on November 2nd. After you get cleared by medical you can try to calm down because you are pretty much going to be going home no later than 2 weeks.

After morning free time the whole process starts over again. We go to chow, come back, clean, free time, go to chow, clean , and have free time again.

About an hour before we go to bed we will do evening hygiene. Evening hygiene consists of brushing teeth, shaving and taking a shower. We would then count off and hit the rack at 8 pm as the 5 fire watch recruits are called.

One of the most depressing things about being in RSP is fire watch. I hated being woken up at 11 or 1 in the morning to stand at a post with a flashlight for an hour. You simply stand there and think “Wow it really sucks to be waiting around here like this”. We then will wake up at 5 am and the day starts over again.

I left on November 10th I was pretty relieved to finally put my civilian clothes on after wearing sweat pants for two and a half weeks.

There is barely any information on the Recruit Separation Platoon online. I am hoping this information helps anyone who is thinking about enlisting who wishes to get the most information they can about the US Marine corps .


Source: James Douglas

  • Zeni

    Yep, that is pretty much RSP is like when I went through it in 2010. I still have regret,guilt and anger I am trying to let go of slowly. Good luck!


      I know that feeling… Feel free to vent here anytime you like.

      Safety and Peace

    • OldieButGoodie

      It took me a decade or longer to really let go of the Corps. Have you ever considered flying out to San Diego and running the Bootcamp Challenge at the MCRD there every fall? They put DIs out on the course. It isn’t bootcamp, and you don’t get an EGA at the end, but at least it’s a consolation prize, a slight sense of having completed something in that environment. It helped me put boot camp to rest.

  • OldieButGoodie

    When I was in RSP in 2000 we didn’t take a bus to chow. I think we ate at 1st Bn, not sure. I was there for about ten days total, which was the standard stay. We mostly watched movies and played cards. I felt bad for the PEB guys, hanging out for months waiting for disability clearances. In the end I think maybe three other recruits from my platoon ended up there with me during my ten days in RSP.

    • willie99

      I broke my anckel but previously I saw the MRP platoon and how they were terriorzed even while broke, I tied the lases so tight and pushed the bone back in as hard as I could, for two weeks i prayed to die.
      You have more strenght than I did. I was not strong enough to speak up for myself to get the help i needed, nor was i strong enough to stop the beatings at night on those who screwed up trying to make it. my right foot is still numb, only becuase the nerve got damaged could i endure, since i didn’t go to medical it’s not in my record and i can’t prove anything for disability. I truelly learned how to fuck myself.

  • James Dangle

    Nothing worse than going home with a shaved head and civilian clothes. When I went to Parris Island in 1986 it would take just as long to get through separation as it did to get through boot. I kid you not, we had a recruit quit on us in first phase, really early into the training, and when we were getting fitted for our Alphas we saw him marching around with the separation group. All he really had to do was sack up, and he’d have made it through.

  • lol


  • RSPGuide

    I just got out of RSP from MCRD SD four days ago, it’s definitely different now from this, at least for SD. I could pretty much tell anyone anything they’d need to know about RSP, I spent 8 days there and was the scribe, though we called the scribe guide to be spiteful. What a hellhole.


      If you’d be interested in sharing your experiences about RSP, I’d definitely be interested in hearing about them.

      Safety and Peace

  • N/A

    I was stuck in RSP for 4 weeks exactly. Long story.

    • Stephen

      RspGuide..what a joke. You make it seem that you are proud to be a quitter. You are good for nothing, always will be a quitter. Scum. Just like any other RSP recruit. Lower than life scum.

      • S.

        The above comment is the exact mentality we are trying to inform people about. That’s how you are looked at if you don’t conform. Thank you Stephen, for being a perfect example.

      • Joe B

        How the hell would YOU know that just because someone didn’t like the Marine Corps boot camp experience, and did not want to waste the next few years, that they will always be ” good for nothing”?

        If they don’t want to be Marines, just let them go, with the minimum out processing time being two weeks, then they have the opportunity to move on to something else. If they succeed or fail at whatever that is is up to them.

        Why waste taxpayer money keeping these people in limbo? In times of fiscal austerity , there’s no reason to keep supporting an ongoing holding prison like this!!

        And you just reflect the attitude of many active duty Marines I used to see- secretly they were just jealous of people of who had found a way to avoid all the BS and get out. It’s like crabs trapped in a crab bucket that try and prevent one crab from crawling away to freedom!!!

        • S.

          “It’s like crabs trapped in a crab bucket that try and prevent one crab from crawling away to freedom!!!”


        • Armybeef68

          And what are you doing now? Oh, I know, DING!…Fries are done, or better yet, Welcome to Wal-Mart.

          • Billiam201

            And you are doing what exactly?

            A prestigious high-paying job, like trash collector or something?

          • B

            Are you serious? Have you had the courage to even step on the yellow footprints?

          • BILLYBOB

            ARMY? U Didn’t obviously!

          • BILLYBOB


      • Guest

        And who do you think you are? How about the recruits who are honest during screening about marijuana use and get sent home? Sorry pal, most recruits lie about it and get in- I’d much rather have an honest person have my back than one who cheats to get in. They also have clean drug tests- it’s Past use.

  • Morgan Beach

    RSP September 2013…3 weeks…fuck that place!!!!

  • Morgan Beach

    By the way the PEB guys generally go insane.

    • Armybeef68

      No, they’re already insane, that’s why they couldn’t handle it

  • Vfore

    Rsp is the most depressing place to be at. I was there for about 16 days. Being the fact that i was dropped on training day 30 , it made it worse. I walked into Rsp and realized that over 90% of the drops were from receiving weeks. This was so crazy to think that people didnt make it out of receiving week, i felt so lucky to have made it as far as i did. In Rsp you meet two kinds of people those who quit and those who didnt. Many get there and decide that they dont wanna do it anymore but then theres those like me who would do anything to get back to training with my platoon.
    Every day you wake up and not know when you are going home. This feeling is literally the worst feeling. Every day unless it was sunday we would go to working parties. Which generally let me see The island from a different point of view. I was the one who gave clothing to the receiving recruits of that week. It was so different than what you see when you are the one in receiving. But besides working , we would sit on our footlockers and wait the day out. I would count the hours left until lights out and then the next day do it all over again. But if you were like me you would be tired each day from 2 hours of fire watch every day until i left, all because of falling asleep during firewatch, even though everyone did it. Fire watch in rsp was basically a joke because of the fact that we get loced in at night with alarms so there was no need for us.
    One of the worst feelings was being made fun of by other platoons and or Drill Instructors. Being from 2nd phase were generally you get yelled at when you fuck up and not for random reasons like in 1st phase it made me feel so bad about myself. Generally all the Drill Instructors label Rsp all as quitters. But the only good thing about it all was the friends i made there. We were all going through the same thing so it was easier to get along. These are friends that will last a lifetime.

    • S.
    • madmike

      Out of curiosity does ANYONE ever go from RSP back to a training plt? What happens if a recruit who quits decides he wants to go back and stick it out? We had a recruit named Albanese who took 9 months to graduate from PI since he kept getting stress fractures but the guy made it and graduated with us.

  • bonafried

    Does anyone know when the family of someone in RSP finds out the exact day they are leaving? My Girlfriend has been in RSP for two weeks now. In the past few letters I have gotten she has said she is next on the list and that she thinks she is leaving this Tuesday (today). Well it’s 5:30pm and her family hasn’t heard anything yet. I’m pretty sure she isn’t coming home today. So when will we know what day she is coming home?

    • StillintheFight

      There’s no “list,” and there’s no projected date for her to go home… she’ll be able to call you and tell you once she knows for sure.

      • bonafried

        So does that mean there is a chance we may not know until the day of?

        • StillintheFight

          You should know before the day of. Do you or her parents have any contact with the recruiting station that enlisted your girlfriend? They can call right down to RSP and ask what’s going on.

          • bonafried

            Yeah. I asked him if he knew anything and he said he would just be put on hold and wouldn’t bother calling down. He told me she is the best person to get info from. Obviously not… She thought she would be home three days ago. We were hoping for today but its 1:30 and we haven’t heard anything.

          • StillintheFight

            I’m not smart enough to know any way to private message you via disqus to try and help you more…

          • bonafried
  • RSP_for_39_days

    Greetings, I just want to add that I was also in RSP. I was a sleepover for 4 days before I was medically cleared, but I had to wait another 35 whole days (!!) before I could leave. (average time was about 7-18 days after being cleared) My paperwork was apparently ‘lost’ while I was there. Being in RSP will damn near drain the life out of you. It sucks. Everyone was unmotivated, it’s a depressing experience. But you get 3 square meals, and an extra hour of sleep compared to training companies.

    Occasionally fights would break out and the DI would disperse it. For anyone that has a family member or knows someone who is in RSP, just relax. They’re coming home and they’re fine (probably). Whether they were classified as FTA (failure to adapt), fraud, medical drop, etc. Also, since they were on active duty for less than 180 days they’ll get an ELS (Entry Level Separation discharge).

    For civilian employers it’s the equivalent of a honorable or general under honorable conditions discharge. It won’t hurt their career or college chances at all.

    However, most likely they can’t re enlist into any branch without a waiver. (see re entry codes) If they apply for a federal job the government will get to find out why you were dropped, what your re entry code is, etc.

    They’ll have 2 DD214 (discharge sheet) sheets. One for civilian employers. (less information) And one for federal employers. (they get the full scoop)

    Hope this answers a few question about RSP..

  • broman

    Man that is really depressing, but hey the bright side of the spectrum is that you’re free from the monotonous b.s. Also it doesn’t matter what the D.I.s told you about leaving and all the garbage they said because realistically their word means absolutely nothing. You can make it in life without the military.

  • SouthernScout41

    Thank you for this “article” My son is currently in RSP # Parris Island and I had ZERO clue what was going on with him. The only thing I know is he left on a Monday morning..I believe we got the 13 second phone call on Weds or Thu. On Sunday morning we received a call that the DI had called the Gunny here @ the Sub Station to say my son was failing to adapt and did not want to be in the USMC. He had not even gone to his assigned Battalion (1rst) when he made this decision..They sent him to the Naval Dr’s on Monday they said he was fine medically he simply did not want to be there. He refuses to say why just that his Dad would understand (former Marine himself) “It’s just not for me sir” “Its not what I thought sir”. Im at a complete loss as to what could have happened. His Dad is a former Marine (discharged other than honorable..the USMC really just made him a more powerful A-hole)..he knew what to expect, had been planning this for the past four years, graduated HS early so he could leave shortly after his 18th birthday. I dont get it..but let me say this..I am just as PROUD of him today as I was the day he left or any other day of his life..Im just ready to see him and talk about whatever happened..Anyway thank you again although your article is somewhat heartbreaking for me as a Mother it is also a relief to have more of an idea what his daily life is like right now.

    • Armybeef68

      “He refuses to say why just that his Dad would understand (former Marine
      himself) “It’s just not for me sir” “Its not what I thought sir”. Im at
      a complete loss as to what could have happened. His Dad is a former
      Marine (discharged other than honorable..)

      No, we don’t call those “former” we call those “EX”

      Entire family is ATE THE FUCK UP.

      • Bubbafett

        Ok. Only retards come up with that shit. In the English language ‘ex’ and ‘former’ have the same fucking meaning. If you are NOT active duty or drilling reserve Marine then you are a former or ex-Marine.

        • Armybeef68

          Former means you took pride in yourself, you take pride in doing what you did, ex means you probably only did four years and hated it the entire time, you talk shit about the military, like I said….ATE UP

          • freeatlastfreeatlast

            “I was a Marine”, “I was formerly a Marine”, “I’m a former Marine”, “I’m an ex-Marine”. These all mean the same thing. Assigning feelings to any of them is subjective.

            An objective statement would be something like “I hated the fucking Marine Corps in every way I could and I’ll be a rotting corpse before I go walking through the recruiter’s door again”.

            I’m glad to see you responding to comments that are a few days old as opposed to a few months or years old though.

          • Bubbafett

            Your still a retard. How did I talk shit about the military? You’re just using fallacies just to save your face. And you know about the Marine Corps? Were you in the Corps? If not, your comments are nothing but a second opinion. Grammar wise ex and former are the same thing. If you are not in the fleet or drilling reserves, you are former/ex Marine. Your so called ‘feelings’ is irrelevant. I did 6 yrs and got out as a Sgt.

          • Armybeef68

            “I did 6 yrs and got out”

            EXACTLY what I thought, I was actually thinking four years but close enough, it’s idiots like you who can’t do the entire 20 who call themselves “Ex” Keep flapping, you’ll just prove my point even more.

          • freeatlastfreeatlast

            What insight would an enlistee get out of 20 years as opposed to 6 specifically?

          • Armybeef68

            You don’t get “insight” delta foxtrot, you get something called pride, the ones who get out early are almost always the ones talking the most shit about their experiences, they’re the ones crying about how badly they were treated, they’re the ones who call themselves “EX”, I don’t hear a lot of 20 year veterans talking bad about the Corps. Maybe you’d like to be the first?

          • freeatlastfreeatlast

            The question stands Armybeef68, what would I experience in 20 years as opposed to the 4 I spent that would make me like the Marine Corps? I’m not surprised to hear that not many 20+ year veterans don’t talk poorly about the Marines, it’s their lives. Check out this site:


            You’ll find a surprising and enlightening common denominator among those who were both enlisted and successful in civilian life. If their success wasn’t directly attributable to the Marines (ie. R Lee Ermey), almost all of them served for six years or less. There’s something to be said about institutionalization.


            My pride and honor in the Marines were both constantly under attack by those who had neither. I knew of a handful of lifers who were sticking around for the right reasons; the rest were in it for the free food and power trip. I always got along with the former, the latter and I couldn’t coexist peacefully. There’s just something about that defeatist and ultimately lazy mindset that drives me nuts. Add to that the assumed positions of power and authority held by these incompetent rubes and you have yourself one big mess that I couldn’t wait to get out of.

          • fat apple

            Pride is nothing but an emotional state- it has nothing to do with grammar in the English language. Learn some basic grammar then get back to us. As an NCO I cared more about results and doing your job than just having ‘pride.’ You were probably never in the Corps either.

          • Fat Apple

            Not really and what rank were you in the Marine Corps because if you served 20 years in the Army, then your opinions are basically secondary. And the fact you don’t know the English composition tells me you resort to your ‘feelings’ rather than reality. You can serve 20 yrs and be a moron. In the private sector and gov’t sector just because you were in longer doesn’t mean you’re shit don’t stink.

          • JARHEADPAST

            There ARE NO X MARINES! If you served and went beyond Boot Camp and received your Eagle Globe & Anchor, you are a Marine for life! Screw You Army Boy!


          BULL SHIT! If you were active duty Marine beyond Boot Camp, U R a Marine for life! Unless dis-honorably discharged! I AM a Marine. WAR TESTED BTW! Being in a separation platoon takes time to UN-DO all the paperwork & medical Etc from when you entered!Thank the DC bureaucrats for that! (REGULATIONS/ LAWYERS) The Military is at best HURRY UP & WAIT! Once they’re FINISHED WITH YOU, you are a LOW PRIORITY! If you took the courage to try, you can stay proud of yourself ! YES the Marine Corps IS the elite military force for a reason! About one % of the entire country is military, IT’S NOT for everyone! Marine boot Camp is an EXTREME test of your endurance both physically & mentally! If you dropped out in week one or week 8, you tried, it’s just NOT FOR YOU, go home ,rest up, and find your next adventure be it Plumber ,Carpenter, Computer Geek, just move forward with your life! The Marines who made it through have your back, FOR A REASON! THANK THEM WHEN YOU MEET THEM!

          • Raptor Jesus

            Hey uhhhh Mr “war tested”

            whats the deal with necro-ing a year old comment?

        • Armybeef68

          Let me tell you the difference between ex and former, one has pride, the other is ate the fuck up.

      • Mokneetah

        Entire Family? See you have some screwed up mentality..I divorced his crazy self and I was simply searching for some answers about what was happening with my child…comments like yours come from people that are so inferior for one reasons or another it takes a uniform for them to feel better and spew BS and others…personally I have great admiration for anyone that serves their country and being part of a military branch and wearing a uniform definitely doesnt mean you serve our country seems to me it just hides your crazy. Good Luck to you Armybeef68.

  • Hannah Alyce Haire

    I have a question. My boyfriend was recently medically dropped. How does he get home? Do we go and get him from SC or does he fly home? What?

  • Mike Armyquitter

    I just don’t understand how these delays to separate people are legal or Constitutional. You’re essentially a prisoner even though you are being discharged. Where’s the crime that allows for your freedom to be restricted? The government, through their shady marketing and recruiting tactics, certainly doesn’t give full disclosure to enlistees, so there’s absolutely no due process.

    • usmcisdumb1234

      There have been people who attempted to sue the U.S. military and failed due to legal contractual agreements made by the person who signed up with whatever branch of service he/she enlisted in. Quite literally, there is very little disclosure about it to enlistees. They absolutely have no idea what they’re signing for….it is traitorous the grounds the military industrial complex stands on when faced up against the Constitution….

  • David_juma

    Do they have RSP in MCt/SOI

    • private_givenofucks

      They have what we call ” Lima company” its legal squadbay where they send the guys who refuse to train. At least that’s what its called at Pendleton SOI, 52 area.

      RSP stands for Recruit Separation Platoon, While at SOI, you get sent to either ITB or MTC, all the grunts go to ITB(Infantry training battalion), all the Pogs(Non-infantry) go to MTC(Marine Combat Training). we don’t call its RSP anymore at SOI because we are not recruits there( Although we pretty much are treated like we are still recruits), We are technically Marines at the start of SOI.

  • Ross

    To this ArmyBeef moron…i am one that went to RSP from received and Im doing pretty great at life. I graduated last May and am now a licensed pharmacist, so eat a dick, sir.

    • usmcbegone

      Having read over these comments and been a follower of this web site, and also having spent a number of years in the Corps before deciding enough was enough, I personally hold no animosity towards people like yourself. And quite honestly vile comments on an Internet forum don’t amount to much.( Yes Armybeef is a moron and is probably one of those loud veterans the rest of us hate!)
      While I am personally glad I completed my enlistment and followed through, if you decided it wasn’t for you and pursued something else- more power to you!
      In todays military, there’s no reason to keep people waiting to exit. Some day the hotheaded morons in the Corps will GROW UP and gain some maturity on this issue.
      I read somewhere that some people are” programmed by their family history’s to want to be part of the military”. I’m not sure if that is your case, but it isn’t a rare thing that a recruit with a military family may feel pushed into it.
      Congratulations on what you feel is important to YOU, and just forget about the unpleasant experience you had. Trust me, if you had been in the USMC you would have had to deal with no shortage of AHoles who never let you forget the most smallest of mistakes!

    • Dan Harrington

      As long as you dont try to sell yourself as a Marine. You didnt hang with it and therefore failed in your endeavor. Who told you it would be easy? SMH Glad they can weed out the nonhackers.

      • S.

        Your comment reeks of jealousy.

      • Billiam201

        First, allow me to compliment you on completing the arduous task of “not failing a drug test and taking a brisk walk”.

        Congratulations, you officially became one of the 90%.

        Good job.

        Here’s the problem with the maweens.

        The “nonhackers” pass.

        That’s why the marines are about as elite as the muppets. That’s why the marines get their doors blown off by the army for a living. They haven’t been relevant as a fighting force since June of 1944, and likely won’t be again in the near future.

        So cling to your boot camp graduation photo, I hope it brings you peace.

        As for Ross, he’s better off without the marines.

        Let it go Elsa.

    • Armybeef68

      Wow, great, a licensed pharmacist, where at, Walgreen’s or CVS?

  • Ashley schmidt

    My boyfriend recently left for bootcamp and after being there for only 4 days, he had troubles with passing out and breathing. So, they eventually sent him to medical which there they diagnosed him with an irregular heart beat (heart murmur) that no one was aware that he had & is told he could no longer continue training. I was wondering how long it would be before he came home? When he talked to his dad, he said 3 weeks, is that a good estimate? Also, will I be able to write him/talk to him?

    • Alex g

      Hey I was in rsp and it took me about 4 weeks to get out. Got 7 bulging discs on the crucible. My paper work got fucked up and took another week but yes expect him in a month

  • Rebecca

    We got a call last Monday saying my boyfriend is getting discharged for depression. They got evacuated to Albany Georgia because of hurricane Matthew and just got back yesterday. I was wondering how long it takes until we get a phone call saying he is in the separation platoon.

    • Chris Raye

      You might want to check the main page (Welcome to iHateTheUSMC) because there’s a man whose son is going through the same thing right now. Look for his comment and you can reply to him asking to have a conversation about what you can expect. His son is about 2 weeks farther along in separation so he will know better what will come.

      Hope you are able to find what you need, and good luck to your boyfriend. As a side note, thank you for being so concerned for him. He is going through hell and your compassion will help him recover.

    • Cris r

      Hay I got the same call but for my girlfriend, do you know what happens next?

      • Chris Raye

        I don’t think Rebecca is active on the site anymore, but I do know that most people have said it takes no longer than two weeks for someone to be processed out (sent home) after they enter RSP. So, if you know that your girlfriend is already there you should expect to see her in two weeks except in odd circumstances. You might get a phone call (most likely her parents or who ever she lives with will get the call) soon before she is scheduled to leave for home so they can make arrangements for her to safely be picked up at an airport/bus stop/recruiting station. Please keep us updated on how the process works for her so people who visit this site with the same question will be able to know, because this is a very important question for concerned loved ones.

  • surfside six

    I arrived at MCRD San Diego in Sept. 1971. The first thing I realized that nobody was going home. No matter. Home is over. Everybody was frightened. Everybody was homesick. But NOBODY was going home. Medical problems? Aches and pains? Impossible. We just did a week of medical before shipping out and deemed in perfect health. Nobody was going home. Where we could go is Motivation platoon. If that failed we go to the MCRD rock pile. After that, there was Portsmouth Naval Prison. And even if everything was done perfectly, we learned quickly it wasn’t going to be pretty. Because the Vietnam war was waiting to take its turn with us. And from what we were hearing, the United States might be losing it. You would have all done fine if you just hung in there. The Marines on Parris Island would have got you through it. You wanted to be a Marine. And the Marines accepted you. A few years is not that long. You had the rest of your life for girlfriends and to be civilians. But you did accomplish one thing that few other people ever will that nobody can take away. You joined the Marines. One week, two weeks, you DID join the Marines. And from only that your life now commands a million true stories.

    • Albert McGee

      They tried to join the USMC… They failed. Nothing to brag about.

      • This is for those families left in the dark, waiting on what’s going on and when. If a DI or an S-1 marine posted here to say, “this is the actual timetable under normal circumstances…” it would be a service to those families.

        That why he said, ‘there’s really nothing about this online.’ And then posted what he knew.

        • Albert McGee

          To tell you the truth Chris, I never knew about all of this when I was at PI in 73. I will edit my reply.

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  • concerned mom

    My son should be coming home today! He enlisted in Austin, TX., but I (his mother) live in Reno, NV and MCRD San Diego will only get him a ticket back to Texas. I haven’t heard from my son today and all I know is that he is getting dropped off at the airport and I have to pay for his ticket home, only problem is I don’t know what time he is getting dropped off. His recruiter hasn’t been contacted by MCRD San Diego either. Does anyone know how long before he makes a final call or any kind of call?

    • Chris Raye

      Granted it has been 2 days since you asked, I hope your son is home safely by this time. If not, you should receive a call from him or from MCRD staff either as he is departing the Depot for Texas or as he has landed in Texas for you to pick him up. Best wishes for you and your family in this tough situation.

  • Chris Hobel

    Hi I just got a call from the head DI in charge of my son. he was sent to pysch and coming home. claims to be found to have OPERATIONAL DISORDER/STRESS -anxiety/ depression. I was told 1 to 3 weeks to get him back. Been ther 2.5 weeks as a recruit. My question is do they attend to him in that time mentally to un wire him? Or am I left a friggin mess on my plate that this kid is gonna think he’s a failure. Personally I think they jumped the gun on this but was told once a Doc signs off its over. He just turned 18 a few days ago so theres college or trade school etc. How do they break down somebody who by all accounts is a hard worker, level headed etc??? I just don’t get it? Also now that this part of his perm record does this preclude him signing up w army or navy say a year from now???

    • Your son is going to feel bad because he failed at something, and might carry the label of OpDisorder for a bit, but will be fine.

      Your son has probably seen a therapist, and will a couple more times, I’m sure. It’ll be helpful, but he’s not overly programmed; he just had a shitty experience, weeded himself out, and is getting to come home with a few bucks in his pocket (take $1,000 and open a Roth IRA – it’ll make this whole experience EXTREMELY worthwhile). He’s probably mopping floors, washing windows, etc. to be kept busy. He’s also being well-fed.

      The DIs probably have a nightly, ‘hey guys, how are you doing?’ because unless someone is acting like a doofus, they are just going to be as normal as they can be.

      The next 4 years look a lot different for your son now. He’ll need a little direction. That Roth IRA I mentioned is really the way to go in terms of positive steps away from a negative outcome.

      • Chris Hobel

        Thank you. I just sent him a letter thru sandboxx pretty much stating that hes gotta concentrate on plan B etc and life is hard and everyone gets knocked down and its those who can keep gettin up who. Go on. Ill know better after i hear from him his mental state. Is that pysch report avail to him? I wanted to see how bad or lame. Idk if my kid plans on a 6mos hiatus of working and going to school in fall or try army or navy. I was also told 2016 and 2017 have record numbers of ppl signing up so they can be picky. Im really befuddled how this happened.

        • Old Former Marine

          I think your son will be just fine and you seem to be supportive. As Chris says, he will probably be somewhat down on himself for not succeeding, but success in the USMC doesn’t necessarily equate to success in life. He tried his best, it wasnt for him and being separated at this early stage of his USMC service was probably a blessing in disguise. As for other services, they may or may not process a waiver, depending on his RE Code. I got out of the USMC with an Honorable Discharge back in 1978 after 18 months of service with an RE-3 and subsequently enlisted in the Navy and later the Army Reserve as a commissioned officer. I also was hired as a DEA Agent and served 27 years and I had one of those letters from a psychologist in my file saying that I had a “personality disorder” (immaturity). So this isnt the end of the world.

  • Albert McGee

    Hey cocksucker! All you are is a keyboard warrior. I see your profile is private, so you’re nothing but a effing coward. FYI, I make 40 bucks an hr.

    • Al, you crazy bastard, your profile is private, too! But between both of you I’m laughing like an idiot, and need to close my browser before someone thinks it’s not the spreadsheets that are so funny.

      • Albert McGee

        OOPS! I didn’t remember making it private…. Hahahaha!!! I think I’ll fix that right now. 🙂

    • zybws

      In the finest tradition of trading insults on a web forum, I can see that are far from the sharpest tool in the shed.
      You probably only make that made up $40 per hour (bullshit) figure when there is a high demand for fake Santas at Xmas time, or shoveling reindeer shit.
      By all means shoot back with an insulting reply, but I find this exchange quite funny too, and we both should know how to have a thick skin.
      By the way, I want an new Xbox One S for Christmas.

      • Albert McGee

        NO! i HAVE AN OLD wee laying around. Will that suffice? hahaha!!!

        • Billiam201

          Now that was well done.

          I don’t agree with your point above, but I appreciate a good burn.

          You’ll have to take my word that I awarded you a slow clap.

    • S.

      Who brags about making a measly 40 an hour after calling someone a keyboard warrior?

  • Bbarbeau

    My son just came home from bootcamp due to depression. His letters were so heartbreaking, I cried more then I did when he left. The Marines is not for everyone and anyone who doesn’t make it through bootcamp should not feel like a loser or quitter. He spoke to the psychologist who proceeded to tell him that he was a quitter, brought up how he quit his previous jobs or was fired and that he would be a 45 yr old loser blaming the Marines. He is barely 18 and the jobs he quit was Target and McDonalds, really. This is how they speak to someone who is expressing depression? Do they want him to try to end his life? I told this to his recruiter and he said that he should have reported it, but my son didn’t want to cause any further delay in his discharge. Also while he was there, a recruit had died, which I’m sure didn’t help with his depression. I will not put down the Marines and I will not blame the Marines but they might want to do a better job with their mental health professionals there. He has only been home 2 days but I can see he is already on the mends, will get help and just wants to continue his life. Again his is just 18.

    • FoxtrotTangoNovember

      See to it he gets the help he needs and he should be good to go. It’s best to get out early if the service isn’t right for you. Sounds like he’s on the right track to putting this behind him. You sound like a caring, supportive parent, which is exactly what he needs during this time. Just make sure he understands he has nothing to feel bad about. These things happen, and really, he’s probably gonna be a lot better off without the Corps. It seems like the U.S. is gearing up for yet another war, so at least he won’t get dragged into that ordeal. Fighting to defend your country is one thing, but playing cop/enforcer for global corporations isn’t a worthy cause to sacrifice your life for. Best of luck to and your son, and I hope he has a positive mindset.

    • It’s time for him to prove everyone wrong. He needs to complete something. How about a book? Contact the email through the site and I’ll send a pdf of mine – it’s short, and he won’t come away thinking, ‘damn, I wish I was a marine now.’

      His next job, he can quit it, and likely should after some time, but only with $1,000 in the bank. And when he quits, he needs to take $500 of it to buy a 12-month CD. This will help him step into adulthood by delaying gratification.

      The Corps is behind him. He didn’t like that job – that’s all – and he should go find something he likes, which he won’t know until he tries.

    • Barb Juhasz

      Hi I just got a call from Parris Island. My son is coming home for the same reasons. What company and Platoon was he in?
      My son’s letters were heart breaking as well!

      • xyz

        I am not inherently anti-military-don’t hold much love for the Marine Corps, but can see the necessity of the organization. But WHAT THE HELL was your son thinking when he decided to sign a contract when:
        a) there is more information on the Internet now than there has been in previous generations about the Marine Corps experience is really like
        b) a website has existed FOR YEARS telling you how ABSURD/STUPID/AWFUL the Marine Corps experience can get?
        He obviously didn’t do his research, and has issues that isn’t Marine Corps boot camps fault!
        I always recommend that intelligent, driven and motivated young people set their sights far higher than the shitty career paths the USMC has.
        but there is always a never ending stream of morons who’ll believe all the crap the recruiters sprout. That was me once, and I regret not listening to better advice,

  • Tyra

    I want to start by saying I do not hate the USMC. My son is in the separation platoon right now. They are talking about him ending up with an adjustment discharge. Does anyone know exactly what this means? How will it affect his future?

    • xyz

      I can’t answer your question with full knowledge, but this reads like ‘failure to adapt to military life’- which is a very open ended statement that only your son knows the truth of.

      • I concur. A very general way of him leaving, basically saying that it wasn’t for him.

  • Calvin M

    Marine boot camp is probably the hardest thing a young person or anybody will ever do in their lifetime. You have to be on your toes every waking minute and you must learn to do things you never thought you could do. The drill instructors are harsh and uncompromising and force you to do difficult things under a lot of mental stress. There is no bargaining with them or pity from them. They do it this way for two very good reasons: to prepare a recruit to perform his job under the extreme stress of combat, and; to prepare him to endure hardship and deprivation. These are skills that can save your life and although the DI does not care for your feelings he does care for your physical well-being and that you learn the skills necessary for a Marine. After I got out of the Corps I started and finished college and went to law school and was sworn in as a member of the bar. After all of that I can truly say that the proudest day of my life was the day I graduated from boot camp and my DI looked me in the eye, shook my hand and said, “Welcome to the Corps, Marine.” He also gave us a short speech that ended with what every DI tells his graduating platoon: “From this day on every Marine who ever lived is your brother.” I am 75 years old and I still shiver a bit when I think of that day. I am very sorry for those of you here whose sons could not complete recruit training. The skills and the strength that they would have received would have served them well, I hope that they find those things somewhere else..